Quote from RudiTurbo :

Guys, sign up for the eRuls!!

Only 6 drivers so far :/

You're all missing out on a fantastic opportunity! The last winners of the International ETM series won a trip to watch the monaco GP for the weekend with Hotel! There was also some Wii's that were given away Last season, who knows what happens for this season =)

Quote from zeugnimod :

You are right about real life (except FIA) but it doesn't matter here.

If their rules are different from real life you have to follow them when you are on the server.

It does matter. www.raceauthority.com

Quote from JasonL220 :

will the UK camp use the same track as international?

It will be the same schedule with the same cars IIRC, just made up of UK/Ireland drivers.

The first race should be the middle of March, there is a fee to join, but it's not much, about 4 pound 50, and it go towards a good cause =)

I don't know if there will be prizes yet though. But you have to compete in a National division to be able to run in the International Cup so it's well worth the time. Who knows, maybe people can turn this into a full time job in the near future and what better way to be prepared than to cut your teeth on some professional quality racing today!

Quote from Mike Bingo :

I want to race, how much is the deposit?

I don't have much at the minute, I've got the MOT due on my car and I need 2 new tyres and a service

Well since it's half of the 61pounds your looking at just over 30 =)

There is a UK division this season

Quote from Becky Rose :

Awwww grats Chris and I hope A is doing well and doesnt call you too many names on the big day.

And hey, if it ent a boy there is still hope - you might end up with a racing crazy dyke like me ...

Hehe I am sure there will be more than a few words but hey =)

I don't care either way, I just hope they will enjoy racing as much as I do =)

Thank you all, it's going to be an interesting and exciting, but tough year I think =)

Quote from Osco :

I see, that's quite a low redline actually. I suggest you check into some pads for now, as I'm sure tristan will chime in about oil soon

Yeah the engine was built with big pistons and stroke to get a nice fat powercurve and torque curve but that cuts the redline down to that of a V8, which I am happy with because thats what I grew up driving. Nothing better to watch yourself chug up a 14degree graded hill in 5th gear at 45mph (IE less than 2k RPM) with three people in the car.

I might just go with greenstuff on the front and then use EBC's standard OEM compound for the rear will cost about 100pounds to do though...

Quote from Osco :

As you're on the track I suppose you'd never be around 2k rpm so it should be well spooled already. The thicker oil will be thin enough at operating temps not too affect spool in any way and give you some headroom at higher temps.

I run 10w40 in my 1.8 mx-5 (still NA) and will probably keep the same oil once I'm actually turboed.

does your car have an oil cooler?

Yeah, just before the oil filter.

Daily driving I like it when the turbo spools at 2k. I have not had to shift for a hill yet=) Max torque hits for me at 2400-4400 and anything under 3k has a slower spool than above and redline for me is 6k so it wasn't uncommon for me to be nearing 3k or slightly below 3k where the spool time can be seen on a track.

Last edited by Christopher Raemisch, Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:57.

Quote from xaotik :

What happens with that method - atleast to me - is that after a while I can tell exactly when each sample is playing. It would take very long samples to actually get enough interesting randomness in there to pull the trick.



Well the exhaust model is a bit more complex than that it seems - I can hear some ring modulation happening depending on tone settings amongst other things for example.

I hear that here too. LFS syths 'sound chambers' with the intake combustion chamber and exhaust system and creates reverb, which happens in RL.

Hence why people 'tune' their exhaust in RL. The sound waves bounce back into the combustion chamber and during certain revs it will increase or decrease backpressure, effecting power output. Two strokes really see this because of their usually high revs and the usage of 'reeds' for port openings. I don't know about new two stroke engines, they may have a more sophisticated approach to valves than a flap =)

Quote from Osco :

I'd say go for a 10w40 oil from a decent company and not .02 quid a litre from the nearest supermarket, even if it's just for the peace of mind..

Hmm with if I had an NA car I wouldn't hesitate, but since I am running a coolant and oil cooled turbo oil viscosity effects my spool time. A thick oil will prevent my turbo from spooling as quick as it does now and I don't want to lose my 2k RPM spool =)

The spool is not such a big deal but I love my quick spool time and I don't want affect it =).

The other thing is that if I go with a higher operating temp weight I will have decreased fuel economy. I will have a tad more power though.

I don't want to go higher on operating temp weight but if I can get the cold weight closer to the op weight the oil is supposed to have less additives which is supposed to prevent the oil from breaking down.

I have also heard that a 5w XXX is much more volitile than a 10w so I will have less junk floating around in the crankcase too, hopefully extending my short fused engine a bit longer (i4, big literage, and 14psi don't make for a long lasting engine, although Dodge did lower the compression to compensate...)

Quote from xaotik :

Excellent, you just described synthesis - you take a "building block" as you say and change it. In LFS's case instead of using a classic oscillator generated "building block" it uses a sampled one. That's the basis of two forms of synthesis: wavetable and sample-based.

=) Yeah, LFS uses wavetable for synth =)

How exactly does sample based work? Do they have a huge sound database matrix that pulls a sound for a given rev and throttle input?

I know LFS takes a basic sound sample makes the wave, changes the amplitude and frequency depending on throttle and rev so instead of having steps in the sounds everything flows as one sine wave.

Quote from Glenn67 :

Do you have any references you can link to about surface temps of tyres, because I'd sure be interested

I'll have to do some searching, once i finish my homework... I think I am going to have to ban myself from teh internet to get my reading done, it's taking forever...

Quote from xaotik :

From what I gather the engine sound synthesis is pretty much:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wavetable

I wish it would use the same approach for the drivetrain as currently getting a clean looping-yet-interesting sample done in the size limits it has is very hard.

In my brief experience of rfactor, the sound quality (much like anything else) varies dramatically from mod to mod but they all have the common trait that the loops are clearly audible (some mods more so than others) and they sound just the same at given RPM regardless of engine-load* - of course all that is not just rfactor, but any sample-based implementation.

* in LFS I am under the impression that it doesn't - however, I just might be wrong - I never actually took time to do any measurements

No engine sounds in LFS are synthed. It takes a short sound sample as a building block and changes the wave to reflect the sound wanted for a given.

The rest of the sounds are sampled, but other than the drivetrain whirr it's not as critical as the engine sounds so that you don't get the problem like in other games that use pure samples where the sound itself doesn't alter with engine load, just the volume which is very fake indeed. It's almost like music sometimes with my 7.1 surround while playing LFS, especially when you get two cars running beside each other, makes me want to hop into my car hehe.

Wilwood 570+ High temp dot3.

Quote from bbman :

You should try Ctrl + Shift while in F9-display some time...

Yep and they don't go up enough. Instant contact temps are supposed to be way above mass temps (someone correct me but IIRC they should be over 120c)

What more do you want for sounds? LFS IMO has one of the best sound engines around. Hit SHift+A while in a car and you can see what I mean. No smelly sampled files for LFS, everything is synthed. Graphics are not that bad, just not oversaturated like many other games which makes them look more brilliant than they actually are. There are things that could be better with the graphics but LFS is still DX8?

Last edited by Christopher Raemisch, Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:54.

My BA is in Organizational Management.

I can't wait for the day to see the little one for the first time =)

Thanks everyone!

Quote from tristancliffe :

Huge congrats Chris. I hope it goes well, and that you'll come crawling back in several years for your next fix of online racing.

Hehe, it's been ages since I picked up my steering wheel. I dabble in the CTRA and try to come up with new ideas for it but I won't be big into driving simulators for a few years now I think.

Besides I have my car, although many people on the forum wouldn't care for it, it's my little joy in life since I cannot afford anything better. There have been talks of selling it, but frankly it fits what Aimee and I will need for a family car too! Gone will be the track/street pads for something not as noisy and my suspension will be turned down but the car had 4 doors, seats 5, has child safety restraints, full size spare, and a full boot. I may even take the wilwood brake kit back off and put my factory calipers back on, at least I could run pads that las more than 10k miles. I wonder if I can find a decent set of tires that could last that long. My BF Goodrich KDW2's have barely lasted 12k... Granted that was a trackday at Silverstone and a day at Santapod, but still, Aimee and I will need money for Nappies =)

I won't be drag racing for a while, but for me thats not a big problem as I only did it because it was so cheap. I will miss being able to get on a racetrack though, but eventually I will make it there again.

Who knows, we might have a little boy and he MIGHT just be interested in simulators =) I have a little brother who's coming onto 12, hopefully I can get him into LFS more. He plays but he's not very good and I cannot instruct him very well 4,000 miles away hehe.

I will be staying in contact with the LFS community that's for sure. I will stay helping with the CTRA thats governing all of Vykos' Online leagues but with school and Aimee not feeling well I have not had much time for anything =) I suppose I better get used to it!

Well there is one issue IMO with the tire heat. When you enter a corner the instant temperatures on the contact surface are much higher than whats recorded in LFS. LFS is more taking a mass temperature, I guess you could say, and that difference will cause acceleration (either laterally or longitudinally) to behave differently, how much it makes a difference I don't know.

Personally I like the slower FZR shift =)

For reasons stated in this thread http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=723216#post723216 I will not be able to confirm just yet, as much as I would like to. I need to figure out where the money is coming from...

I couple of you have heard that something has/is changing in my life. Besides me going back to university to complete a BA my wife and I found out recently that..

We are expecting a little one! It's still very early yet but still it's a big life change =)

Grats!

UK ETM SIGNUPS OPEN!
The Inaugural season of the UK ETM is finally up and running, with the schedule decided, ready, and waiting for drivers. If the other ETM divisions are any indicator this division will be an exciting one! With the top drivers being sent into the international division to compete with the best and greatest in Live for Speed touring cars, this is a chance for the aspiring driver that they just can’t pass up! Last season in the international division we saw Nils Naujoks and Marco Schade both receive an all inclusive trip to watch a Formula 1 race weekend at Monaco, after Nils won the championship and Schade won the final race of the season. Couple with this is the opportunity to be broadcast LIVE on eSports LIVE-streams, eSports really is where it’s at.

There will be 8 races, all held between April and the end of June. The winner of UK division will have the opportunity to run in the International Cup. See below for more specifics.

Start Date: Tuesday 15 April 2008
Number of events: 8
Finish Date: Tuesday 22 July 2008
Start Time: 1930 UK Time
Qualify Length: 15 minutes
Race length: Aproximately 1 Hour
Entrance Fee: €5.95 Euro


Signups now open!
http://www.esport-racing.com/l ... iew_league&liga_id=25


Drivers Currently Signed Up:
Josh Difabio ~ joshdifabio
Struan Robertson ~ AlienT
Ben Crooks ~ BenjiMC
Graham Swan ~ sidi
Jack Basford ~ Clownpaint
Stuart Baker ~ Bean0
Niall McEvoy ~ Niall09
Struan Robertson ~ AlienT
Matthew Beattie ~ AMB
Jason Lovett ~ JasonL220
Dave Southword ~ Storm_Cloud

Last edited by Christopher Raemisch, Sun, 13 Apr 2008 13:46. Reason : Driver Entrance, Date Change

I think people need to look back at last year this time, we were lucky to hit 900 racers online, we are not double that but getting closer (1500 racers online at a time during the weekend)

This time of year has always been slow. It picks up again after school is out and the summer hits.

Quote from SamH :

The rest of the community? Like as a whole? You WISH!

My ass you don't. What a complete and utter troll you are.

You suck. I mean it, you really suck. God, I hate trolls.

Settle Sam, Settle =)

LIke most people at my work everyone seems to think that everything takes ten minutes and everything is a quick fix. How little do they know...

I do not know.

I do know that all drivers entering an E-Sport series or event will have to have a certain CTRA license level, which would be determined for each series individually as to what exactly the level requirement is (IE Bronze through Platinum)

That being said this rule will be waived for a given amount of time yet to be determined.

The CTRA has also given Vykos a rule PDF which has all of the rules. He is a bit busy this week though so all I can say is yes there is a series and it starts in the middle of March =)

Yes there will be a UK division, specifics are not yet known and will hopefully be released this week. I do know it will be run on Tuesdays. There was a time also set but I cannot remember off the top of my head. There will be a payment that would have to be made, much like the rest of E-Sports leagues. The prize money has to come from somewhere =) I do know that racing will begin the middle of March. Hopefully I can get some time with Vykos to get some more specifics so you all can be made aware.